Posts by Anony Mous

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Victoria, Australia: Steven Unthank's Press Release: JW's Hierarchy Formally Charged Today With Child Abuse

by AndersonsInfo in

jehovah's witnesses hierarchy charged.

immediate press release: 26 july 2011. link to this press release: http://wp.me/p1g1hc-4o.

worldwide church hierarchy charged with child abuse.

Anony Mous

The problem is that they don't want anyone to officially know who is a child molester in their organization. There are several things that come into play when you start complying with these laws:

- The numbers get anonymized and aggregated into statistics

- The people the government screens might not be fit for their current position.

- Many currently in positions in congregations, circuits and even bethel would fail one if not both tests (and this is not a bash, just an observation). The screening is basically a psychological test together with a background test. It requires a spot-clean record, critical thinking capabilities and the offered training goes into the capacity to find patterns and mistakes, the assertion and abuse of power and all other abuses not only other people but also in a hierarchy or when a hierarchy or a group of offenders is trying to hide something. Off course this is focused on child molesters but when applied to religious doctrine this will make many reject their beliefs. Why do you think many that go to college reject their faith within 1-2 years? Because those skills are thought and applied in some of the very first classes when you enter any college or university especially in psychology and sciences.

- It would require immediate reporting of all offenses regardless of the '2-witness' rule past and present. This has protected MANY in the organization and there would be an outbreak of cases against the JW's like the ones they settled in the US for millions. They're already running short on cash (liquidity) and much of the money donated comes with ties as to the cause, none of the money with ties can be used for this.

- It would condemn those that have offended in the past and are found out to have no participation in congregational activities including worship (meetings, field service, conventions, ...)

- When R&F finds out their local leadership has been ousted because of this or there is a large exit of leadership all over the country, what do you think that would do to them?

- They're already running short on 'qualified brothers'. This might force them to either their standards on service and other 'biblical' requirements or force them to accept women in their leadership. This would require shockwaves globally since they have to keep up the appearances of being 'united' globally.

- They claim all Witnesses are ordained ministers (in order to get them to preach). This would require them to undo these claims (undo the baptism even?) and have 2 classes, the preaching ones and the non-preaching ones.

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WTS vs The Smurfs? 2011

by kzjw in

with the release of the 3d movie the smurfs, will the wt once again bash the little blue people as agents of satan?

we see the focus on twilight bashing, so is this even a relevant call for the society to make?

or will they rely on their past attack of papa smurf and the gang?.

Anony Mous

The Smurfs are back! In my congo at least the Smurfs are now demonic again! We do have some old timers but not-so-old-timers (parents of older children) still remember it.

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More hypocrisy (surprised?) Oct 1 2011 Public Watchtower

by wannabefree in

you could also hold back from scrutinizing.

your beliefs out of fear that doing so would.

display a lack of faith.

Anony Mous

I'm not surprised. Try the following in your congregation:

- Go to the meeting missing your Bible.

- Then go to the meeting missing any Watchtower publication (SB, KM, WT, YB, ...).

How often does somebody share or give you a spare bible to use.

How often does somebody share or give you a spare Watchtower publication to use.

On Sunday meetings how often does an attendant run up to you with a Bible.

On Sunday meetings how often does an attendant run up to you with a Watchtower publication.

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Thanks for your support JWN!!! Dad dies monday, JW family goes to convention on thursday

by Coffee House Girl in

jw
friends

coffee shop guy directed me to his thread...thank you so much everyone for your thoughts of support, it means a lot to have people who understand and show genuine sympathy.

here's my experience so far.... my father dies monday night & my brother (nonjw) calls me to come home, when i arrive my father is still sitting on the couch- all the jw family is sitting in a semi-circle around him, my non jw brother is standing in the next room.

no one is crying, no one is talking.

Anony Mous

I likewise almost cried after reading your post. There are other conventions, most likely at the same site. They could also have gone just for Sunday and picked the rest up elsewhere.

I feel for you and however you want to remember your dad is good.

The fact that they ignored your fathers request shows that they are simply trained (you could say brainwashed) to disrespect someone else's privacy and life if they think they could gain just 1 convert.

This is an important reason to have a living will, the bigots in your family.

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Isaac Newton is an anointed Christian.......

by Slidin Fast in

startfragment.

did anyone else pick up the wild assertions in the dc.

henry grew, george storrs and isaac newton were part of the anointed.

Anony Mous

It was Billy Tindale. The problem was that most of those were men of science and philosophers. They simply didn't accept a personal God as the God of Judeo-Christian mythology is not only a mathematical impossibility but also a theistic problem (he's an unloving, uncaring, self-centered bastard) and all of them attained to a specific religion the JW's condemn b/c of social pressure (the fright of men). They would not only be a bad witness, they would be DF'ed for participating in other religions and apostasy.

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Chemtrails, Seeing is believing.

by pedal power in

before i begin, i want you to know i understand the difference between chemtrails and contrails, so lets leave those discussions behind, chemtrails exist.. what is the purpose of chemtrails ?

if it was to artificially create clouds, why come to edinburgh ?

for any of you who are unaware, 90% of the time its cloudy and rainy, so creating cloud cover, is a joke.

Anony Mous

If Chemtrails existed and were organized why:

Should you be able to see them? It's more inconspicuous and easier to use a plane or truck and just use the chemical or biological substance without resorting to sprays which contain water.

Why has nobody leaked the info? We know more about Area51 which is a very small, localized project than a worldwide military, organized, continuously active project.

What do they disperse and why is it done? It should be easy to fly through a trail and collect what's in it by an independent body as has been done for contrails. Again why don't we see any effects on the population or at least a correlated allergic reaction to either the product or the vapor to disperse it.

Why do they only occur in flight paths and near airports?

Learn to do science first before engaging in any meaningful conversation about scientific concepts and projects. This also counts for you bible thumpers engaging in a conversation about history and science in a book full of mythology

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Paraplegic JW example used at assemblies

by Alfred in

it seems like every time our circuit failed to meet the field service goals set by our co, the very next circuit assembly would invariably include a talk that mentions a chronically ill paraplegic sister who would dial the phone with her tongue to make return visits or conduct bible studies... i must have heard this experience at least 6 or 7 times in the past 20 years or so.

and every time i heard this recycled talk, they would add even more guilt-inducing twists to it.

to me, it eventually became way to difficult to believe...

Anony Mous

The story makes no sense since disabled persons have specialized interfaces to an especially useful tool such as a phone. Voice recognition has been available since the early 80s and before that they had human operators which for disabled people was free with the state-owned phone networks.

Also, your tongue would cramp up horribly after a couple of phone calls and the precision as face nears buttons would be very bad.

the Africans I never believed since JW's are only starting to make inroads and then mainly in their cities. Those people simply don't have time to go away from the farms, they are mainly ruled by local tribe leaders that decide everything for the tribe and suits are simply too expensive for 90% of the population, especially the people who JW's are targeting (poor, afflicted, undereducated)

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This convention blows

by Anony Mous in

seriously, half day in (already had an argument with the wife this morning about individuality in the organization in which she conceded that a lot of it is based on looks) and this is already getting on my nerves.

i'll post a rebuttal based on my annotations later in the week but one thing i got to get off my mind: saying the feminist movement (women going to work instead of staying home) and the diversity laws (allowing for homosexuality - but also religious freedom, racial discrimination etc.

) caused a lot of the problems in our world right from the stage.. there are less people here than last year - about 500 less..

Anony Mous

Hi outsmart, send me a PM with your location.

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DEAR RICH FOLKS: Get Ready For A (Tax) Revolution...

by darthfader in

interesting point of view and graphs.

is the us different today than it was in the 50's and 60's when tax rates were at their highest?

a lot of people agree that raising taxes pulls money out of the economy and will hinder job creation.

Anony Mous

Taxes do not affect jobs. That is because the employer does not pay income taxes, the employee (the one with the income) does (the taxes get withheld out of your paycheck). The employer may have to pay taxes when buying things like base products, property etc. but that is very easily deducted by anyone with a decent accountant (when I had a business I paid no taxes for anything).

The thing is that the tax scales go way down once you pass the magic $200,000 point. All of a sudden your income becomes comparatively higher while it should be the other way around. The (false) reasoning behind that is rich people (as individuals) will leave the US. Even though some people may do that, more than often these people have families, jobs and houses here. The US is also pretty safe to have money as your money is insured and we have a pretty good defense against criminals, going to Mexico, Brazil or any 3rd world country with it will settle you for life but you won't ever be safe and Canada, Europe and other 1st world countries have more taxes. The real reason is that senators and other lawmakers have a base salary of roughly $250,000.

The same goes for business, business won't leave because they have to pay taxes. Apple will still want a store in your mall, AT&T will still have to provide for phone service, GE would still like to sell a $99 airco or a windmill and doing that abroad would make it uncompetitive because of the shipping costs alone. Hiring local experts from a relatively highly educated pool will be much better than hiring somebody that doesn't speak the language of the customer and more likely than not will not have had a good basic education. Besides that once those companies start settling in those countries, within a decade the expected wages in that area go up to the same level as the pool of available employees and educated people depletes. Outsourcing was a bit of a fad in the tech-boom but now a lot of companies (like Dell and HP) are quickly scurrying back with their call centers to rural America (now you get to talk to a incomprehensible hick instead of an incomprehensible Indian) while Apple has consistently scored the highest in the industry for customer service. A lot of companies that outsourced were also duped by the locals that would just churn out cheap engineers to fill the demand without really having educated them (or only educated them enough to pass the interviews), managing a group of people that don't understand you or vice versa and have a different culture is very difficult if not impossible.

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District Crapvention - Immense Image in Daniel

by outsmartthesystem in

since my exodus is yet incomplete.....i was there.

and it was indeed awful.

according to the talk.....the iron and clay feet of the immense image is the anglo-american world power.

Anony Mous

The interpretation changed (or was interpreted depending on the context of the literature) a couple of times. Trust me, the next new light will be that the feet are Iron = America and Clay = China. This would allow for the strong world power that was shattered by a soft economic element but both world powers would need each other to exist.

After that, when the US fails (within a few decades when we all speak Chinese) the Greek world power will not be a significant world power anymore since they never really had a strong impact on Jehovah's people and thus the legs of iron were America and China the feet of clay and iron as they are strong as iron but the communistic aspects of this power make them open for widespread corruption and thus these are the 'soft' elements. We will still be living in the time period of the feet and the rock is about to hit the feet so Armageddon should be really close now. Sorry for the last 300 years of speculation where the Holy Spirit was wrong but the light keeps on getting brighter like a strobe at the disco.

Within 5 world powers the statue would've come into existence at 1914 and thus the head of Gold is America as foreshadowed by the king of Babylon.